>> you want one more law on top of 20,000 laws when most of the federal gun laws are. >> enough. >> enough. >> demand a plan. >> right now. >> i need your help. i do. i have a great fondness and admiration for the political process. >> you can never ask me about what it is and we're going to hurt people. >> i'm happy being involved from the outside in government. >> ifs and ands and buts are like candy and nuts. >> i feel that it's more likely we will go over the cliff. >> the house should have gone and passed speaker boehner's bill. >> i think he's doing all he can and catching hell at the same time. >> we do the right things every day for the right reason. >> this looks like it was a nice rather than naughty crowd. >> ooh, let's get right to our panel. with us from washington, cohost of the cycle krystal ball. so ryan, we've got the president heading back to washington to head off the fiscal cliff. but he's also got some second term appointments on his agenda. one being the next secretary of defense. did you expect to see chuck hagel of all people so embattled from both sides? >> well, y